stever20 wrote:The issue is going into the conference season already have if everyone wins out Nova with 5 losses, and 5 other teams with 3 losses. Gonna be tough for any of those 6 teams to get in at 10-10 for instance in conference play already. Marquette and Providence could easily join the 3 loss group. At some point, raw record means something.
kayako wrote:If we're strictly concerned with number of bids, ideally there's a gap between top 5 or 6 and the rest. A bunch of 10-10 teams below top 3 teams would not be ideal if our conference numbers don't improve dramatically. I'm just saying it's a little premature to say Villanova needs 14 BE wins at minimum with 3 of them being vs. UCONN and Creighton. I am going to wait until the challenge vs. B12 is complete to project what's needed for each team going forward.
Xuperman wrote:kayako wrote:If we're strictly concerned with number of bids, ideally there's a gap between top 5 or 6 and the rest. A bunch of 10-10 teams below top 3 teams would not be ideal if our conference numbers don't improve dramatically. I'm just saying it's a little premature to say Villanova needs 14 BE wins at minimum with 3 of them being vs. UCONN and Creighton. I am going to wait until the challenge vs. B12 is complete to project what's needed for each team going forward.
I think you generally agree with the thinking that started this thread.
As far as Villanova goes, I kinda think we've already seen enough to ballpark the necessary numbers needed for an at large. Oklahoma is the best it's gonna get for an OOC resume enhancer and Portland is history. Realistically your Wildcats need to feather their cap with several wins at the very top of the conference AND get to at least 14-6 20-11. Perhaps you see a scenario where an at large is obtained otherwise.
Let's look at Xavier for comparison and give them the benefit of the doubt of winning out OOC. Best W, WVU + Florida and UC (probably on par w/ Temple). Worse L- none. Go 12-8 20-11. Unless there is multiple losses vs the lower BE, only a couple of wins at the top would be needed IMO.
Yes, loong waay to go......just noodling ways to get to 5 bids.
Django wrote:The Big East is a solid #4 in Massey, ahead of the ACC and PAC, pretty much the same as always. Although we had some bad matchups and those putrid road games in Portlandia (that thing SUCKED! I hope CU never plays that lame ass tourney with more dead skin from Phil Knights face on his suit lapels than there were people in the stands). For comparison look at the AACK: they have soon to be gone Houston at #2 but they’re still at no 8 and slipping into oblivion once the split happens. Hell, Georgetown is at 162… I think that’s better than they were last year, which actually helps us overall. Yes this is the FIRST YEAR we’ve been behind in the F5 matchups but the sky hasn’t fallen yet!
Massey as of today:
5 Connecticut
16 Creighton
30 St John's
54 Marquette
57 Xavier
65 Seton Hall
77 Butler
82 Providence
84 Villanova
115 DePaul
162 Georgetown
hoops22 wrote:All the computer rankings are pretty worthless right now. RPI has Charleston, Sam Houston, and Hofstra all ranked in the top ten, while Virginia, Kansas, and North Carolina are all in the 30's and 40's. The NET seems to be more accurate to me right now in most cases, but not all. Below I'll list the top 10 NET rankings and see who can guess who mystery team number 6 is.
1 Gonzaga
2 Houston
3 Kansas
4 Arizona
5 Baylor
6 ????
7 Tennessee
8 Texas Tech
9 Kentucky
10 Duke
Mystery team number 6? Villanova
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