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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby stever20 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:00 pm

kayako wrote:
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Yeah if it's just 1 add in Colorado Pac 12 would be ok. San Diego St a pretty decent replacement. But after that it goes downhill really fast.

Will be interesting to see how the MWC responds too, especially if they lost more than SDSU.


How dumb was SDSU's we're leaving letter, only to say we're not leaving and agreeing to a higher exit fee + legal fee? Cost them millions... lol

Yeah for sure. Just crazy.
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby Omaha1 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:52 pm

Did I hear correctly that the PAC 12 doesn’t have an exit fee?
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby kayako » Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:19 pm

Omaha1 wrote:Did I hear correctly that the PAC 12 doesn’t have an exit fee?


They probably felt geography shielded them from raids.
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby Django » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:14 pm

The Big 13 and PAC 9 are doomed. The B 13 added absolutely nothing to their conference as far as football relevancy. The only states that move the needle are TX and FLA and they only added the fourth (UCF) and sixth/ seventh (UH) best teams from those states… big woop. They’re all just as doomed once all the smoke clears. Adding UCONN football would make them the Big 14 laughing stock conference :lol:
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby gosports1 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:41 pm

Omaha1 wrote:Did I hear correctly that the PAC 12 doesn’t have an exit fee?


Since their contract expires next year anyone can leave at that time before a new one is in place
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:19 am

gosports1 wrote:
Omaha1 wrote:Did I hear correctly that the PAC 12 doesn’t have an exit fee?


Since their contract expires next year anyone can leave at that time before a new one is in place


Correct. Exit fees are required when a school leaves the conference before the end of a TV contract, or there is are contracted terms detailing an exit that requires a fee (like UConn). There are no exit fees to the PAC at present, given the TV contract ends after next year, and that is when Colorado is joining the Big 12.

The PAC (Presidents, Scott and Kliavkoff) embarrassingly mismanaged and misdirected itself for significant period of time. It was "too elite" to have to bring along Oklahoma State and Texas Tech as part of the Texahoma expansion plan (UT/OU); it spent massive amounts of expenditures on office space and travel for leadership; it wrongly accounted income, didn't realize it and then is forced to return payouts; it completely bungled the invitation of SDSU, now pushing them off a year. Oh, and it allowed the Big 12, a league that was perceptually beneath the PAC to not only overtake them with a TV deal but also poach one (probably more) of its members. A complete failure all around.

More schools will depart the PAC. The floodgates are open. In this scenario, a network wasn't organizing and giving strategy to members to depart to competitors. This result was 100% internal and self-inflicted.
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby stever20 » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:51 am

GoldenWarrior11 wrote:
gosports1 wrote:
Omaha1 wrote:Did I hear correctly that the PAC 12 doesn’t have an exit fee?


Since their contract expires next year anyone can leave at that time before a new one is in place


Correct. Exit fees are required when a school leaves the conference before the end of a TV contract, or there is are contracted terms detailing an exit that requires a fee (like UConn). There are no exit fees to the PAC at present, given the TV contract ends after next year, and that is when Colorado is joining the Big 12.

The PAC (Presidents, Scott and Kliavkoff) embarrassingly mismanaged and misdirected itself for significant period of time. It was "too elite" to have to bring along Oklahoma State and Texas Tech as part of the Texahoma expansion plan (UT/OU); it spent massive amounts of expenditures on office space and travel for leadership; it wrongly accounted income, didn't realize it and then is forced to return payouts; it completely bungled the invitation of SDSU, now pushing them off a year. Oh, and it allowed the Big 12, a league that was perceptually beneath the PAC to not only overtake them with a TV deal but also poach one (probably more) of its members. A complete failure all around.

More schools will depart the PAC. The floodgates are open. In this scenario, a network wasn't organizing and giving strategy to members to depart to competitors. This result was 100% internal and self-inflicted.

This makes the Big East situation 10+ years ago seem totally organized..
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:32 pm

Tomorrow might possibly be D-Day for the PAC.

Rumors swirling that the TV package offer is through Apple (less exposure) and $20 million AAV per member (less money). If true, every school will look to jump. Arizona is strongly rumored to also be headed to the Big 12, possibly with ASU and Utah.

For the Big East, UConn is likely off the table for now, with Gonzaga still very much available for a relatively cheap add to guarantee Fox more west coast exposure. The next few months will be telling.
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby Omaha1 » Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:59 pm

GoldenWarrior11 wrote:Tomorrow might possibly be D-Day for the PAC.

Rumors swirling that the TV package offer is through Apple (less exposure) and $20 million AAV per member (less money). If true, every school will look to jump. Arizona is strongly rumored to also be headed to the Big 12, possibly with ASU and Utah.

For the Big East, UConn is likely off the table for now, with Gonzaga still very much available for a relatively cheap add to guarantee Fox more west coast exposure. The next few months will be telling.

Rumors swirling that Oregon and Washington might be in line for a Big Ten offer.
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby jbarajas0490 » Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:27 am

Rumor is the ACC schools are starting to want out as well. Chaos.
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