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NCAA proposing new college subdivision - direct athlete comp

Postby adoraz » Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:52 am

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-proposing ... 51537.html

Could have major implications for the Big East. Obviously concerning as we earn a lot less than football schools. One positive for the Big East is Title IX, which would require schools to pay 50% towards females. That means football schools would have to pay hundreds of athletes while Big East could just pay the two basketball teams. Still may ultimately end up bad for some or all of the Big East, and will likely open the door for more conference realignment.
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Re: NCAA proposing new college subdivision - direct athlete

Postby DeltaV » Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:54 am

Minimum 6 million a year, and splitting 50/50 with female athletes? How many schools can afford that on top of existing budgets, and, for example, is Alabama really going to spend as much on the football team as women's sports?

It may be politically incorrect to say, but women's sports don't make the same income as men's. There may be a few women's basketball programs which are in the same ballpark as men, but they'll all be dwarfed by football.

I may be completely out of touch, but this seems designed to fail from the beginning.
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Re: NCAA proposing new college subdivision - direct athlete

Postby butlerguy03 » Tue Dec 05, 2023 12:38 pm

(conference media deal % per player per sport) + (ncaa media deal % per player per sport) = pay. Only fair way. Title 9 will just cause many large athletic programs to slash, slash, slash non revenue programs.

The current plan of min 30k per player actually BENEFITS the Big East. We wouldn't have football sucking up all the money over that number, and have the media deal to pay it (likely).
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Re: NCAA proposing new college subdivision - direct athlete

Postby stever20 » Tue Dec 05, 2023 12:40 pm

butlerguy03 wrote:(conference media deal % per player per sport) + (ncaa media deal % per player per sport) = pay. Only fair way. Title 9 will just cause many large athletic programs to slash, slash, slash non revenue programs.

only thing is there are minimum requirements to be in D1. Can't just be football and basketball and that's it.
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Re: NCAA proposing new college subdivision - direct athlete

Postby butlerguy03 » Tue Dec 05, 2023 12:45 pm

stever20 wrote:
butlerguy03 wrote:(conference media deal % per player per sport) + (ncaa media deal % per player per sport) = pay. Only fair way. Title 9 will just cause many large athletic programs to slash, slash, slash non revenue programs.

only thing is there are minimum requirements to be in D1. Can't just be football and basketball and that's it.


probably won't be a part of the new subdivision, the big schools will fight for full independence and create much more relaxed rules
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Re: NCAA proposing new college subdivision - direct athlete

Postby stever20 » Tue Dec 05, 2023 1:52 pm

butlerguy03 wrote:
stever20 wrote:
butlerguy03 wrote:(conference media deal % per player per sport) + (ncaa media deal % per player per sport) = pay. Only fair way. Title 9 will just cause many large athletic programs to slash, slash, slash non revenue programs.

only thing is there are minimum requirements to be in D1. Can't just be football and basketball and that's it.


probably won't be a part of the new subdivision, the big schools will fight for full independence and create much more relaxed rules

The new subdivision is still D1. So will have to be the sports requirements. I'd actually think it'd go opposite what you're saying- would want it harder for some schools to remain in D1 instead of easier.
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Re: NCAA proposing new college subdivision - direct athlete

Postby shizzle898 » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:17 am

1. Whether a school opts in or out does NOT affect their FBS status (at least for now) or Division 1 status.

2. Whether a school plays FBS football, FCS football, or no football has no bearing on their ability to opt in or opt out.

3. Charlie Baker now thinks it will be closer to 100 schools opting in.

Here is who I think will opt in:

P4 (including ND)
Big East (including UConn football)
Gonzaga
Oregon State
Washington State
MW (except for Air Force)
AAC (except for Army and Navy)
Liberty
UTEP
James Madison
Appalachian State
St. Louis
Dayton
VCU
UMass

Total: 113 schools

Villanova, Georgetown, and Butler may drop football to save money, but I do believe all of the Big East schools will opt in and pay the men's and women's basketball player an amount commensurate with what the P4 will offer.
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